Re: R: R: VMware - snap - backup

From: Vaughn Stewart (vmwarestorageguy@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Mar 05 2008 - 08:32:41 EST

  • Next message: Stewart, Vaughn: "Re: R: VMware - snap - backup"

    There are many customers running 100s and 1000s of VMs over NFS. It seems
    like a natural way to integrate NetApp¹s storage virtualization directly
    with VMware, and NFS performs on par with FCP. You should try it, you¹d be
    surprised.

    Cheers,
     
    Vaughn Stewart | Virtualization Evangelist

    From: Jack Lyons <jack1729@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:09:12 -0500
    To: Milazzo Giacomo <G.Milazzo@sinergy.it>
    Cc: "Buerger, Andreas" <andreas.buerger@wincor-nixdorf.com>, Nick Silkey
    <silkey@ece.utexas.edu>, <toasters@mathworks.com>
    Subject: Re: R: R: VMware - snap - backup

    I don't speak for VMWare but I know that they are moving away from only
    storing ISO and templates. There are several good size implementations
    of vmware on nfs. We have about 2 dozen VM's running on nfs and another
    40 running on FCP.

    Milazzo Giacomo wrote:
    > And I've to (re)correct you :-)
    > NFS? Avoiding phylosophical discussion on performances, VMware itself states
    to use it just for ISO or templates...
    > you perfectly know how much costs the NFS license! Terrible!!! iSCSI is free
    (bundle) and we've tested also on huge SATA disks...no issues.
    >
    > Why do you said that iSCSI implementation is horrible? It's so easy to
    setup...
    >
    > -----Messaggio originale-----
    > Da: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] Per
    conto di Buerger, Andreas
    > Inviato: martedì 4 marzo 2008 14.38
    > A: Nick Silkey; toasters@mathworks.com
    > Oggetto: RE: R: VMware - snap - backup
    >
    > I have to correct you :)
    > We did some tests with vcb and iscsi, it works fine, but vcb in general
    > was not very convenient.
    > And the other thing is that the iscsi implementation in esx is horrible.
    > Use NFS to earn more flexibility and an even better performance.
    >
    > That's the experience we've made.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]
    > On Behalf Of Nick Silkey
    > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 1:17 PM
    > To: toasters@mathworks.com
    > Subject: Re: R: VMware - snap - backup
    >
    > Milazzo Giacomo wrote:
    >
    >> As I told you in another mail your environment make me more persuaded
    >> that the best thing you could do is to use VCB.
    >>
    >
    > VCB = VMWare Consolidated Backup?
    >
    > AFAIK, it is not an option in an iSCSI environment[1] ... if this is not
    > the case, do correct me as we are aggressively pursuing iSCSI on our
    > 3020s as a prod means to store vmdks for ESX. :)
    >
    > [1]: http://www.vmware.com/files/pdf/iSCSI_design_deploy.pdf
    >
    >



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